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Marienfeld FB by Willi Krisch

Christoph Berger
 

Karen,

I believe my BERGER ancestors were among the original settlers of Marienfeld. I already have pages 112 and 113 (family 00602 through 00611) from the Marienfeld FB by Willi Krisch, but I still need the preceding pages that contain the earlier BERGER families. 

II would appreciate it very much if you could send me the relevant pages. 

Thanks,
Chris 



Re: Banat Books News - Familienbuch Warjasch im Banat no longer available #feed

Philipp Gerhardt
 

Online - Ortsfamilienbuch Warjasch

Katholische Pfarrgemeinde  Varjas – Warjasch im Banat  1788 – 1909

https://www.online-ofb.de/varjas/

 

 

 

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Datum: 2020-11-28T23:18:51+0100

Von: "W David Samuelsen" <sammyslc@...>

An: "everybody@banat.groups.io" <everybody@banat.groups.io>

 

 

 

I have scanned a copy of Warjasch.
 
David Samuelsen

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 3:11 PM everybody@banat.groups.io Integration <everybody@banat.groups.io> wrote:

Familienbuch Warjasch im Banat no longer available

Familienbuch Warjasch im Banat
1786 - 2013
By Gunhild Burger, Anni Lorenz & Dietmar Giel

OUT OF PRINT
NO LONGER AVAILABLE

 

 




Re: Banat Books News - Familienbuch Warjasch im Banat no longer available #feed

W David Samuelsen
 

I have scanned a copy of Warjasch.

David Samuelsen

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 3:11 PM everybody@banat.groups.io Integration <everybody@banat.groups.io> wrote:

Familienbuch Warjasch im Banat no longer available

Familienbuch Warjasch im Banat
1786 - 2013
By Gunhild Burger, Anni Lorenz & Dietmar Giel

OUT OF PRINT
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Familienbuch Warjasch im Banat no longer available

Familienbuch Warjasch im Banat
1786 - 2013
By Gunhild Burger, Anni Lorenz & Dietmar Giel

OUT OF PRINT
NO LONGER AVAILABLE


Re: Josephus Straub and Susanna Schlauch marriage Albrechtsflor

Karoly Hajdu
 

Hi Karen,

 

Thank you very much.

 

Best regards,

Károly

 

From: everybody@banat.groups.io <everybody@banat.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Dalton Preston via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 28 November, 2020 18:09
To: Banat.io List <everybody@banat.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [banat] Josephus Straub and Susanna Schlauch marriage Albrechtsflor

 

Hi Károly,

 

Here is the information I have on this couple:

 

S 492         STRAUB Josef, son of Josef STRAUB and Elisabeth REININGER (BERNINGER) (S-490.2) (Mrfld 10707.1)

~07.05.1850 Marienfeld, living at Mokrin 1890

oo 16.06.1872 Albrechtsflor (MI22-FI18)  -  witnesses: Andreas Straub, Michael Szeiler

SCHLAUCH Susanna, dau of Johann SCHLAUCH and Anna SEILER (S-154.1) (Grkmls 2849.4) (Mrfld 09487.1)

*31.01.1855 Gr Komlosch, living at Alb 176

Qu:  Willi Krisch - Ortsfamilienbuch Marienfeld, pg. 1325, #10711; pg. 1324, #10707.1

Qu:  Nikolaus Horn - Familienbuch Grosskomlosch (2013), pg. 580, #3219; pg. 515, #2849.4

 

They did not have children in Albrechtsflor or in Marienfeld, so I think we can say that they settled in another village after marriage.  Since Josef STRAUB was listed as living in Mokrin at the time of the marriage, they probably settled there.  Unfortunately, we do not have the records for Mokrin for these years.

 

The Albrechtsflor book will be published in early 2021.  Since you are in the EU, you can send a preorder request to Josef Michels in Germany - jomichels@...

 

With best regards,

—Karen

 



On Nov 27, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Karoly Hajdu <karoly.hajdu@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Karen (Dalton),

 

Do you have any information about the Family (descended) of Josephus Straub and Susanna Schlauch who marriaged in Albrechtsflor 1872 June 16 (see the attached Document)?

 

Another question, when and how can I buy your Albrechtsflor Familybook?

 

Many thanks and best regards,

 

Károly Hajdu

from Budapest

 

 

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KLECKER in Topola/Topolya

Erin Kampf
 

Hi everyone,

I am wondering if there is a FB for Topola/Topolya. On the DVHH Villages page a few different publications are noted, but I'm not clear on their contents. I am looking for KLECKER family details to try to connect up with my KLECKER family. The Heufeld Massdoft FB notes a number of KLECKER families coming from Topolya (although not mine - they come from nowhere according to the book LOL).

Cross-posted to DVVH List.

Thanks for your help!

Erin Kampf
Vancouver, Canada


Re: Hodon Look up

Anna Lorenz
 

Hallo Rudolf,
 
sorry, I did not find any of your persons in this family book.
 
Anni
 
 
Gesendet: Samstag, 28. November 2020 um 16:34 Uhr
Von: "Rudolf Huepfl via groups.io" <huepfl@...>
An: everybody@banat.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [banat] Hodon Look up
Dear Anna, I do have a question on clarification. The familybook you mentioned is Knees with filials in Hodon, Baratzhausen and Ketfel by D. Giel.
So far, I taught that Ketfel is contained in Kleinsiedel (2020) also by D. Giel.
I once got information from the Kleinsiedel book explaining that there are four Hupfel families in:
- Hupfel Nikolaus (*1830) oo-I Barbara Rech and oo-II Josefa Kafka; 2 kids
- Hupfel Johann (*1850) oo Elisabeth Wetzer; 10 kids
- Hupfel Franz (*1833) oo Katharina Rennich (plus mentioning two weddings of Franz in Bogarosch)
- Hupfel Franz (*1875) oo Theresia Wolf; 3 kids

Would you please be so kind and check if this is the same with your mentioned book or is there any difference. I do have interest in compiling the Hupfel family all over; so any other Hupfel could be of interest.
However, I do have additionally a conected Elisabeth Potje (Bottchen (1851-1939) from Hodon, Knees;
Thank you in advance for such clarification
Rudolf Hupfl


Re: Josephus Straub and Susanna Schlauch marriage Albrechtsflor

Karen Dalton Preston
 

Hi Károly,

Here is the information I have on this couple:

S 492         STRAUB Josef, son of Josef STRAUB and Elisabeth REININGER (BERNINGER) (S-490.2) (Mrfld 10707.1)
~07.05.1850 Marienfeld, living at Mokrin 1890
oo 16.06.1872 Albrechtsflor (MI22-FI18)  -  witnesses: Andreas Straub, Michael Szeiler
SCHLAUCH Susanna, dau of Johann SCHLAUCH and Anna SEILER (S-154.1) (Grkmls 2849.4) (Mrfld 09487.1)
*31.01.1855 Gr Komlosch, living at Alb 176
Qu:  Willi Krisch - Ortsfamilienbuch Marienfeld, pg. 1325, #10711; pg. 1324, #10707.1
Qu:  Nikolaus Horn - Familienbuch Grosskomlosch (2013), pg. 580, #3219; pg. 515, #2849.4
 
They did not have children in Albrechtsflor or in Marienfeld, so I think we can say that they settled in another village after marriage.  Since Josef STRAUB was listed as living in Mokrin at the time of the marriage, they probably settled there.  Unfortunately, we do not have the records for Mokrin for these years.

The Albrechtsflor book will be published in early 2021.  Since you are in the EU, you can send a preorder request to Josef Michels in Germany - jomichels@...

With best regards,
—Karen


On Nov 27, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Karoly Hajdu <karoly.hajdu@...> wrote:

 
Hi Karen (Dalton),
 
Do you have any information about the Family (descended) of Josephus Straub and Susanna Schlauch who marriaged in Albrechtsflor 1872 June 16 (see the attached Document)?
 
Another question, when and how can I buy your Albrechtsflor Familybook?
 
Many thanks and best regards,
 
Károly Hajdu
from Budapest
 
 
<JOSEPHUS_STRAUB-SUSANNA_SCHLAUCH_MARRIAGE_ALBRECHTSFLOR_1872.png>


Re: Hodon Look up

Rudolf Huepfl
 

Dear Anna, I do have a question on clarification. The familybook you mentioned is Knees with filials in Hodon, Baratzhausen and Ketfel by D. Giel.
So far, I taught that Ketfel is contained in Kleinsiedel (2020) also by D. Giel.
I once got information from the Kleinsiedel book explaining that there are four Hupfel families in:
- Hupfel Nikolaus (*1830) oo-I Barbara Rech and oo-II Josefa Kafka; 2 kids
- Hupfel Johann (*1850) oo Elisabeth Wetzer; 10 kids
- Hupfel Franz (*1833) oo Katharina Rennich (plus mentioning two weddings of Franz in Bogarosch)
- Hupfel Franz (*1875) oo Theresia Wolf; 3 kids

Would you please be so kind and check if this is the same with your mentioned book or is there any difference. I do have interest in compiling the Hupfel family all over; so any other Hupfel could be of interest.
However, I do have additionally a conected Elisabeth Potje (Bottchen (1851-1939) from Hodon, Knees;
Thank you in advance for such clarification
Rudolf Hupfl


Book: Velika Pisanica 1945 by Vladimir Geiger

Rosina T. Schmidt
 

Hello Everyone,

Dr. Geiger, the Croatian historian, just published his newest book on Danube Swabian persecution:
"Velika Pisanica 1945”. In this town one of Tito’s forced labour camps was established, and quite a few DS from all corners were interned there.

Dr. Geiger’s books are full of documents of those times. 

Velika Pisanica is in present day Croatia.

The books # ISBN 978 953 8335 04 4 

Warm greetings from Vancouver Island, and please stay safe!

Rosina T. Schmidt 
www.hrastovac.net



Re: Hodon Look up

Anna Lorenz
 

Hi Julie,
 
in the family book of Knees with the falial parishes of
Hodon, Baratzhausen and Ketfel by Dietmar Giel
I find under number 344:
Czerschi Andreas  born about 1816 in Albrechtsflor died  11 09 1856 Hodon
oo 14 05 1838 in Albrechtsflor
Rebholz Katharina (second marriage under number 3031)
born about 1817 in Albrechtsflor  died 23 04 1863 Hodon
 
several children were born in Albrechtflor
and these in Hodon:
Peter           * 12 05 1849 Hodon    + 20 06 1932  Warjasch   oo 05 11 1871 in Warjasch to Rollinger Katharina
Elisabeth      * 12.12.1851 Hodon
Margarethe  * 06 04 1854 Hodon
Johann        * 30 05 1856 Hodon + 14 10 1866 Hodon
 
by the way: Rollinger Katharina is my second cousin second degree :-)
 
 
Viele Grüße
Anni


Josephus Straub and Susanna Schlauch marriage Albrechtsflor

Karoly Hajdu
 

 

Hi Karen (Dalton),

 

Do you have any information about the Family (descended) of Josephus Straub and Susanna Schlauch who marriaged in Albrechtsflor 1872 June 16 (see the attached Document)?

 

Another question, when and how can I buy your Albrechtsflor Familybook?

 

Many thanks and best regards,

 

Károly Hajdu

from Budapest

 

 


Hodon Look up

 

Greetings - Can someone do a Hodon FamilyBook  look up for Margit Czersch, (dob 1856) parents are Andreas Czersch and Catherine Rebholz. 
Wanting to confirm her parents names, dob's  and if there is mention of any other siblings.  Thank you  Julie 
--
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julie.karner@...
Pinehurst North Carolina


Banat Books News - Tschawosch im Banat available on CD #feed

everybody@banat.groups.io Integration <everybody@...>
 

Tschawosch im Banat available on CD

Tschawosch im Banat, 1806-1973, by Philippe Willer, including Fodorhausen, Gad, Gier, Rudna, Schurian & Toager. 20 euros + shipping


Wiseschdia - clarification on younger marriages

Rudolf Huepfl
 

Dear Banaters,

Sometimes, one gets mixed up when some marriages "overlap". That is why I hope to get some better information on the situation in Wiseschdia. I do have some cut-outs from older versions of the family book of Wiseschdia. Unfortunately, only one marriage date is shown.
Starting with family 862 Glassen Johann
1.oo Dinier Eva on APR 23, 1898 - no kids
2.oo Schmidt Anna on ??? - kids between 1903 and 1910
When looking on family 579 Eck Christof & Dinier Eva - we find
1.oo Glassen Johann on APR 23, 1898 (as above) - no kids
2.oo Eck Christof on ?? -  one daugther in 1912;
As it looks out, all of them changed partnership when living. Nowaday quite normal but more than 100 years ago in Banat not so often.
As far as I know, Dinier Eva died in 1936, Christoph Eck in 1945, Johann Glassen in 1939 and Anna Schmidt in 1934.
Is there anybody who has info on the two other marriages; most likely none of them catholic.
Thank you for any hints
Rudolf Huepfl


Re: Ernsthausen - look-up

Rudolf Huepfl
 

Dave,
No, besides your actual reply, there was not.
As the family book does not explain the issue, I agree with you. Most probably, all the six siblings are not legitim (in the eyes of the chuch). Other reason could be only, that the priest has other reasons for not mentioning the father. 
Thank you for your explanation
Rudolf


Re: Ernsthausen - look-up

Dave Dreyer
 

Rudolf,

Did you ever get a reply to your query?

Maria had six other siblings and there is no father given in the family block for any kids of this family.  Again, as you point out there is no father given when any of these kids got married. My conclusion is that the father is unknown and is not recorded in the church books.  Must be illegement births. 

Dave Dreyer

On Thursday, November 19, 2020, 05:22:46 AM PST, Rudolf Huepfl via groups.io <huepfl@...> wrote:


Dear Banaters,
Following my checks on the Hupfel entries, I came to a curious OFB Ensthausen entry. Family 1704 Hupfl Peter was married three times. His second wife Heinrich Maria, *Aug 13, 1885 in Ernsthausen is mentioned as the daugther of Magdalena Heinrich with reference 1476.5 of the same family book. As I do not have a copy of this entry I wonder what this entry says on family 1476. Under normal conditions, this number would mean fifth child of said mother. As no father is mentioned, would this mean they were all illeg ?
Would be anybody be so kind and send a copy of this entry or explain it.
Thank you in advance
Rudolf Hupfl


Re: [DS] Banater causalities on the Narva

Reinhold Benedik
 

I definitly can say that my father was a surviving member of the 11. SS Panzergrenadier-Division Nordland, and he was in Narva and very likely also engaged in the Endkampf battle of Berlin. He was a Saxonian from Romania. Any details about these events are very appreciated.


Am 22.11.2020 um 15:46 schrieb Karen Dalton Preston:


Begin forwarded message:

From: Karen Preston <karendpreston@...>
Subject: Re: [DS] Banater causalities on the Narva
Date: November 22, 2020 at 9:44:24 AM EST
To: Donauschwaben-L <donauschwaben-l@...>

I have a correction to the email address for Alfred Ivanov that was included in the email below - alfivanov@...

—Karen Preston

On Nov 21, 2020, at 8:30 PM, David Dreyer <ddreyer@...> wrote:

There has been some discussion in the past month or so, on the list of  Banaters enrolled in SS Divisions other than the Prinz Eugen.  The 5 Nov edition of the Banater Post contains an article on a newly published book by Alfred Ivanov(author of the Grabatz family book) entitled "Endstation Narwa".  As the article notes there are few Romanian Banat households where a family  member has not left their life in Estonia or Latvia on the Narva. Ivanov has compiled a catalogue of 750 casualties from ca 100 grave photos in military cemeteries.  Over 150 Banat localities are noted.  The victims are listed alphabetically as well as by their birth place.  Birth dates, death dates and places, cemetery and military rank are given where known.The work can be ordered from Alfred Ivanov atalfivanov@....   The price is 15 Euro plus postage  
Dave Dreyer
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[DS] Banater causalities on the Narva

Karen Dalton Preston
 



Begin forwarded message:

From: Karen Preston <karendpreston@...>
Subject: Re: [DS] Banater causalities on the Narva
Date: November 22, 2020 at 9:44:24 AM EST
To: Donauschwaben-L <donauschwaben-l@...>

I have a correction to the email address for Alfred Ivanov that was included in the email below - alfivanov@...

—Karen Preston

On Nov 21, 2020, at 8:30 PM, David Dreyer <ddreyer@...> wrote:

There has been some discussion in the past month or so, on the list of  Banaters enrolled in SS Divisions other than the Prinz Eugen.  The 5 Nov edition of the Banater Post contains an article on a newly published book by Alfred Ivanov(author of the Grabatz family book) entitled "Endstation Narwa".  As the article notes there are few Romanian Banat households where a family  member has not left their life in Estonia or Latvia on the Narva. Ivanov has compiled a catalogue of 750 casualties from ca 100 grave photos in military cemeteries.  Over 150 Banat localities are noted.  The victims are listed alphabetically as well as by their birth place.  Birth dates, death dates and places, cemetery and military rank are given where known.The work can be ordered from Alfred Ivanov atalfivanov@....   The price is 15 Euro plus postage  
Dave Dreyer
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Donauschwaben-L@...
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Banater causalities on the Narva

Dave Dreyer
 

There has been some discussion in the past month or so, on the list of  Banaters enrolled in SS Divisions other than the Prinz Eugen.  The 5 Nov edition of the Banater Post contains an article on a newly published book by Alfred Ivanov(author of the Grabatz family book) entitled "Endstation Narwa".  As the article notes there are few Romanian Banat households where a family  member has not left their life in Estonia or Latvia on the Narva. 
Ivanov has compiled a catalogue of 750 casualties from ca 100 grave photos in military cemeteries.  Over 150 Banat localities are noted.  
The victims are listed alphabetically as well as by their birth place.  Birth dates, death dates and places, cemetery and military rank are given where known.
The work can be ordered from Alfred Ivanov at
alfivanov@....   The price is 15 Euro plus postage
  

Dave Dreyer