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Re: Banater Akten

Uwe Morres
 

Hi,

regarding Wilhelm & Kallbrunner:
Their book is available on CD - check the information here:

Bye,
Uwe

Mark Zajac <mazajac97@...> schrieb am Mi., 6. Juli 2022, 05:45:

Hi Cathy,

I had started making an index of the Banater Akten collection on FamilySearch since it is a bit difficult to navigate.  It's not complete, but I'm sharing it in case others may find it helpful.

The Wilhelm & Kallbrunner volume is also available on FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/48684?availability=Family%20History%20Library) beginning on image 371.  It's a decent alternative to the Stader series to find the registration date, and then the Banater Akten can be referenced for further information (i.e. age, occupation, number of family members).

Regards,
Mark


Re: Fw: Mercydorf lookup: Gassner

Florian Straub
 

solved, thanks
 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. Juli 2022 um 09:11 Uhr
Von: "Florian Straub" <Flominator@...>
An: everybody@banat.groups.io
Betreff: [banat] Fw: Mercydorf lookup: Gassner
Hello again,
 
meanwhile I received the direct line, but I assume that there are more Gassners in the Mercydorf book. Can somebody please scan or photograph the Gassner pages from there?
 
Thanks a lot
 
Flo
 
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Juni 2022 um 06:19 Uhr
Von: "Florian Straub" <flominator@...>
An: "Banat-L" <everybody@banat.groups.io>
Betreff: Mercydorf lookup: Gassner

Hi everybody,

I'm looking for the ancestors of Josef Gasser (born 28 Nov 1775 in
Mercydorf), son of Jacob. Does it mention any origin of them?

Thanks a lot and kind regards from Black Forest

Flo


Fw: Mercydorf lookup: Gassner

Florian Straub
 

Hello again,
 
meanwhile I received the direct line, but I assume that there are more Gassners in the Mercydorf book. Can somebody please scan or photograph the Gassner pages from there?
 
Thanks a lot
 
Flo
 
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Juni 2022 um 06:19 Uhr
Von: "Florian Straub" <flominator@...>
An: "Banat-L" <everybody@banat.groups.io>
Betreff: Mercydorf lookup: Gassner

Hi everybody,

I'm looking for the ancestors of Josef Gasser (born 28 Nov 1775 in
Mercydorf), son of Jacob. Does it mention any origin of them?

Thanks a lot and kind regards from Black Forest

Flo


Re: Banater Akten

Mark Zajac
 

Hi Cathy,

I had started making an index of the Banater Akten collection on FamilySearch since it is a bit difficult to navigate.  It's not complete, but I'm sharing it in case others may find it helpful.

The Wilhelm & Kallbrunner volume is also available on FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/48684?availability=Family%20History%20Library) beginning on image 371.  It's a decent alternative to the Stader series to find the registration date, and then the Banater Akten can be referenced for further information (i.e. age, occupation, number of family members).

Regards,
Mark


Re: Kleinjetscha FB or Gy FB “”Balaba” surname

Cathy Reece
 

Anni,

Thank you so much.

Regards,

Cathy

On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 7:46 AM Anna Lorenz <WohnungKorntal@...> wrote:
Cathy,
according to the familybook Kleinjetscha from Dietmar Giel
 
the marriage was on 6th february 1806 in Kleinjetscha,
 
Katharina Auer was born there on first october 1786 to
Johann Christan Auer *26 12 1745 Herbitheim (Elsass) and to
Katharina Gruber * 07 01 1748 Bliesebersingen (Lothringen)
 
Sorry there is no information to Johann Ballauer,
but the familybook of Gertianosch (author Dietmar Giel also) gives the information,
that he was born arond 1785 and died in Pardan 21 12 1811
 
Hope, this helps
Anni
 
 
Gesendet: Montag, 04. Juli 2022 um 23:54 Uhr
Von: "Cathy Reece" <cre29ece@...>
An: everybody@banat.groups.io
Betreff: [banat] Kleinjetscha FB or Gy FB “”Balaba” surname
Dear listers,
 
OTHER SV BALLAUER/PALLAUER
 
Looking for my ancestor’s brother —Joannes Pallauer(Balaba, Ballauer , Palauer are spelling variants in his entry in Pardan book)
 
He married in Gertianosch in 1807 to Catherine Nauer(Auer). Could someone send me screen shot of that marriage entry.
 
I am seeking his parents names or place of origin for this family. His brother Peter is listed as Alapam in Gy FB in marriage entry in 1799.
 
BALABA as spelling variant came from some other source. I’m hoping to find that source.
 
Regards,
 
Cathy
 
 


Re: Banater Akten

Cathy Reece
 

Florian,
Thank you so much. I can read German.

Regards, 

Cathy

On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 12:30 AM Florian Straub <Flominator@...> wrote:
There is a book which can serve as Index. I put together some information about the whole topic at https://genwiki.de/Banater_Akten 

Maybe Google Translate turns it into something useful. There's also an English link at the bottom.

Kind regards from Black Forest
Flo


Am 05.07.2022 00:26 schrieb Karen Zander <karen.zander@...>:
Hi Cathy,

They are on FamilySearch:
There is no index, just page through.

Good luck finding what you need.
Karen 

On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 2:41 PM Cathy Reece <cre29ece@...> wrote:
Could someone please tell me how to research the Banater Akten.  Do you have to have a Stader entry with reference to the Banater Akten?

Is the Banater Akten on Family Search?

Many thanks for your help,

Regards,

Cathy




Re: Banater Akten

Dolores J. Barber
 

This is great, Florian! Thank you so much for this.

Dolores Barber
Chicago
Researching Jungheim from Nagy Becskerek

On Jul 4, 2022, at 11:31 PM, Florian Straub <flominator@...> wrote:

There is a book which can serve as Index. I put together some information about the whole topic at https://genwiki.de/Banater_Akten 

Maybe Google Translate turns it into something useful. There's also an English link at the bottom.

Kind regards from Black Forest
Flo


Am 05.07.2022 00:26 schrieb Karen Zander <karen.zander@...>:
Hi Cathy,

They are on FamilySearch:
There is no index, just page through.

Good luck finding what you need.
Karen 

On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 2:41 PM Cathy Reece <cre29ece@...> wrote:
Could someone please tell me how to research the Banater Akten.  Do you have to have a Stader entry with reference to the Banater Akten?

Is the Banater Akten on Family Search?

Many thanks for your help,

Regards,

Cathy






Re: Kleinjetscha FB or Gy FB “”Balaba” surname

Anna Lorenz
 

Cathy,
according to the familybook Kleinjetscha from Dietmar Giel
 
the marriage was on 6th february 1806 in Kleinjetscha,
 
Katharina Auer was born there on first october 1786 to
Johann Christan Auer *26 12 1745 Herbitheim (Elsass) and to
Katharina Gruber * 07 01 1748 Bliesebersingen (Lothringen)
 
Sorry there is no information to Johann Ballauer,
but the familybook of Gertianosch (author Dietmar Giel also) gives the information,
that he was born arond 1785 and died in Pardan 21 12 1811
 
Hope, this helps
Anni
 
 
Gesendet: Montag, 04. Juli 2022 um 23:54 Uhr
Von: "Cathy Reece" <cre29ece@...>
An: everybody@banat.groups.io
Betreff: [banat] Kleinjetscha FB or Gy FB “”Balaba” surname
Dear listers,
 
OTHER SV BALLAUER/PALLAUER
 
Looking for my ancestor’s brother —Joannes Pallauer(Balaba, Ballauer , Palauer are spelling variants in his entry in Pardan book)
 
He married in Gertianosch in 1807 to Catherine Nauer(Auer). Could someone send me screen shot of that marriage entry.
 
I am seeking his parents names or place of origin for this family. His brother Peter is listed as Alapam in Gy FB in marriage entry in 1799.
 
BALABA as spelling variant came from some other source. I’m hoping to find that source.
 
Regards,
 
Cathy
 
 


Re: Banater Akten

Florian Straub
 

There is a book which can serve as Index. I put together some information about the whole topic at https://genwiki.de/Banater_Akten 

Maybe Google Translate turns it into something useful. There's also an English link at the bottom.

Kind regards from Black Forest
Flo


Am 05.07.2022 00:26 schrieb Karen Zander <karen.zander@...>:

Hi Cathy,

They are on FamilySearch:
There is no index, just page through.

Good luck finding what you need.
Karen 

On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 2:41 PM Cathy Reece <cre29ece@...> wrote:
Could someone please tell me how to research the Banater Akten.  Do you have to have a Stader entry with reference to the Banater Akten?

Is the Banater Akten on Family Search?

Many thanks for your help,

Regards,

Cathy




Re: Banater Akten

Cathy Reece
 

Thank you!
Cathy

On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 6:26 PM Karen Zander <karen.zander@...> wrote:
Hi Cathy,

They are on FamilySearch:
There is no index, just page through.

Good luck finding what you need.
Karen 

On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 2:41 PM Cathy Reece <cre29ece@...> wrote:
Could someone please tell me how to research the Banater Akten.  Do you have to have a Stader entry with reference to the Banater Akten?

Is the Banater Akten on Family Search?

Many thanks for your help,

Regards,

Cathy


Re: Banater Akten

Karen Zander
 

Hi Cathy,

They are on FamilySearch:
There is no index, just page through.

Good luck finding what you need.
Karen 

On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 2:41 PM Cathy Reece <cre29ece@...> wrote:
Could someone please tell me how to research the Banater Akten.  Do you have to have a Stader entry with reference to the Banater Akten?

Is the Banater Akten on Family Search?

Many thanks for your help,

Regards,

Cathy


Kleinjetscha FB or Gy FB “”Balaba” surname

Cathy Reece
 

Dear listers,

OTHER SV BALLAUER/PALLAUER

Looking for my ancestor’s brother —Joannes Pallauer(Balaba, Ballauer , Palauer are spelling variants in his entry in Pardan book)

He married in Gertianosch in 1807 to Catherine Nauer(Auer). Could someone send me screen shot of that marriage entry.

I am seeking his parents names or place of origin for this family. His brother Peter is listed as Alapam in Gy FB in marriage entry in 1799.

BALABA as spelling variant came from some other source. I’m hoping to find that source.

Regards,

Cathy



Banater Akten

Cathy Reece
 

Could someone please tell me how to research the Banater Akten.  Do you have to have a Stader entry with reference to the Banater Akten?

Is the Banater Akten on Family Search?

Many thanks for your help,

Regards,

Cathy


Re: Linguistic research project on the Banat Swabians

 

Hello fellow Schwabians. Mom's from Tschesterek (Becker) and Dad's from Setschan, both from the Serbian part of Banat, which isn't far from the Romanian border, if that counts. My paternal Grand father is from Johannisfeld (Romania). I was born in the Labor camp  Mom and Dad met in (1948-1951) after  Mom and my older siblings survived Rudolfsgnad Hungercamp, which others of my extended Family did not, and Dad survived the /War. I grew up in a refugee camp in Vienna, Austria and do speak German, especially the Vienna Dialect. I understand the Schwaben Dialect just fine and even still speak some of it. I go by my Birthplace Beocin "Beo Cin" on Facebook, since it didn't feel like using my name at that point of time. Contact me if you like.


Re: Linguistic research project on the Banaters

 

More info on your parents may give some clues. George Klingler


On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 9:10 AM, Terisia
<Terisia11@...> wrote:
Good sabbath Banaters,
I’ve discovered my Mothers heritage from the Banat to Lefor North Dakota. (Mayer’s and Martins) Now I’m endeavoring to search out my Father’s side, Alfred Schroeder. All I know is his father, (my grandfather William Schroeder) was born in Wisconsin USA. Born on a homestead there in 1890’s. With 8-12 brothers and sisters. I’ve been told my great grandparents migrated there to Wisconsin from Berlin. My fathers parents divorced in 1926. He didn’t have much contact with his fathers side of the family. So after all this time, relatives have passed away and can’t seem to get information. I’d sure like to find a way to discover more information on the Schroeder’s. Any helpful directions would be great. Thanks
Teri kolesnick/Schroeder
Reno Nevada USA
> On Jul 2, 2022, at 5:00 AM, loujwac via groups.io <loujwac=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> Hello Banat Group,
>
> My name is Louis Wachowe and I am a son of a Banater from Brestowatz, Yugoslavia. My Father Nickolaus Wachowe was born in Brestowatz and at age 4 was put in a concentration camp when the Russian Army came through. With the help of his Grand Father Ludwig Wagner, a WWI Veteran who was a POW in Siberia, he escaped with his mother and sister to Austria. After a few years in a refugee camp in Tirol, Austria they all emigrated to St. Louis, MO. My father is 82 and still speaks Donau  Schwabisch. My brother Frank and I both have studied German and can speak conversationally but are not completely fluent. As a child all of my Father’s  Family spoke Donau Schwabisch, so we know some of the words. I’m very happy to hear about your project and we would love to contribute in some small way if you think it would be of value.
>
> All the best,
>
> Louis
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Linguistic research project on the Banat Swabians

Marlene Perrucci
 

My mother is 95 and from Tschesterek, which is not too far from Hatzfeld, but in Serbia. We grew up speaking Schwowisch. If interested, we are in the Chicago area.

Marlene Straub Perrucci


Re: Linguistic research project on the Banaters

Terisia
 

Good sabbath Banaters,
I’ve discovered my Mothers heritage from the Banat to Lefor North Dakota. (Mayer’s and Martins) Now I’m endeavoring to search out my Father’s side, Alfred Schroeder. All I know is his father, (my grandfather William Schroeder) was born in Wisconsin USA. Born on a homestead there in 1890’s. With 8-12 brothers and sisters. I’ve been told my great grandparents migrated there to Wisconsin from Berlin. My fathers parents divorced in 1926. He didn’t have much contact with his fathers side of the family. So after all this time, relatives have passed away and can’t seem to get information. I’d sure like to find a way to discover more information on the Schroeder’s. Any helpful directions would be great. Thanks
Teri kolesnick/Schroeder
Reno Nevada USA

On Jul 2, 2022, at 5:00 AM, loujwac via groups.io <loujwac@...> wrote:

Hello Banat Group,

My name is Louis Wachowe and I am a son of a Banater from Brestowatz, Yugoslavia. My Father Nickolaus Wachowe was born in Brestowatz and at age 4 was put in a concentration camp when the Russian Army came through. With the help of his Grand Father Ludwig Wagner, a WWI Veteran who was a POW in Siberia, he escaped with his mother and sister to Austria. After a few years in a refugee camp in Tirol, Austria they all emigrated to St. Louis, MO. My father is 82 and still speaks Donau Schwabisch. My brother Frank and I both have studied German and can speak conversationally but are not completely fluent. As a child all of my Father’s Family spoke Donau Schwabisch, so we know some of the words. I’m very happy to hear about your project and we would love to contribute in some small way if you think it would be of value.

All the best,

Louis





Re: Photos from today's Lovrin

Peggy Miller
 

I responded to Tibor’s message above and he promptly sent me a link to download. The pictures of Lovrin were so wonderful and lovely to see. They were special to me b/c the Kleckner branch of my family tree came from Lovrin and I had not been able to find any info about this family, (my brick wall), so I was thrilled to at least be able to see pictures from their home area. 
Then I found out that Tibor would be able to do some local research for me. 
I hired him for a very reasonable fee and he blasted through my brick wall and further! He provided me with digital images of all the information that he gave me, with a translation of each image and with a thorough explanations of anything that required more info. This information progressed my research and introduced me to a few more generations back in time and now I know I have Stephan, Piringer and Hild ancestry also! 
Tibor is the best experience I have had in my Banat research and I would highly recommend him if you need research done in this general area. He is very professional and thoughtful.
(And to top off an already excellent experience, I  found a cousin and we have since connected!)  


Re: Linguistic research project on the Banat Swabians

loujwac
 

Hello Banat Group,

My name is Louis Wachowe and I am a son of a Banater from Brestowatz, Yugoslavia. My Father Nickolaus Wachowe was born in Brestowatz and at age 4 was put in a concentration camp when the Russian Army came through. With the help of his Grand Father Ludwig Wagner, a WWI Veteran who was a POW in Siberia, he escaped with his mother and sister to Austria. After a few years in a refugee camp in Tirol, Austria they all emigrated to St. Louis, MO. My father is 82 and still speaks Donau Schwabisch. My brother Frank and I both have studied German and can speak conversationally but are not completely fluent. As a child all of my Father’s Family spoke Donau Schwabisch, so we know some of the words. I’m very happy to hear about your project and we would love to contribute in some small way if you think it would be of value.

All the best,

Louis


Re: Linguistic research project on the Banat Swabians

GEORGE OCHSENFELD
 

Dear Manuel,

My grandmother Elizabeth Ochsenfeld immigrated from Obeba (Bebe Veche) to Chicago in 1903, at the age of 17. She spoke German, Hungarian, Romanian, and Serbian, and became fluent in English in America. Her father owned a tavern/bowling alley in Obebe where she worked as a little girl and became fluent in the other languages.

My grandfather, who was also named Ochsenfeld, moved from St. Nicholas (I believe near Timisoara) to North Dakota briefly in the early 1900s, then to Chicago where he met my grandmother. He spoke German only until learning English. His family were bankers. He came to America to avoid conscription. To seemed to identify as German, although he never really talked about it. He tried to teach me German, but all I learned was a couple of short children’s poems. My mother said he belonged to the German Bund in the 1930s

When friends in Chicago from Hungary came over to play cards, they spoke German. However, when my grandmother’s nephew, Charlie (who spelled his name Oxenfeld), and his wife Marge visited from St. Louis, they all spoke Hungarian. My grandmother did not seem to have a clear ethnic identity and did not seem to identify as German or Hungarian. She would say that people are just people. She did mention that she was cousins with Johhny Wiesmuller's mother, who worked in downtown Chicago cleaning offices while he was a success in Hollywood. 

My grandparents had three sons. The two oldest, born probably between 1912 and 1916, spoke fluent German. My father, born in 1919, did not speak German. I don’t know if this was because Germans had become unpopular during and after the war or if he didn’t have a knack for languages. 

Each of my father’s brother had one child and none spoke German. Neither do I, which I regret. I am now 74, a little too old to learn!

Good luck with your research!

George Ochsenfeld, Monee, Illinois 


-----Original Message-----
From: Manuel Schumann <manuel.schumann@...>
To: everybody@banat.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jul 1, 2022 5:00 am
Subject: [banat] Linguistic research project on the Banat Swabians

Hi everybody!
My name is Manuel Schumann, I am a German linguist at the University of Augsburg. I am a collaborator of a research project about the Banat Swabians. You can find more information about the project here (in German): https://www.uni-augsburg.de/de/fakultaet/philhist/professuren/germanistik/variationslinguistik/forschung/bkm_forschungsprojekt/.
In this project I have already conducted interviews with Banat Swabians in Romania. For example, I was in Billed, Gottlob or Großsanktnikolaus and talked to some people there, which was very interesting. However, we also plan to talk to Banat Swabians who have emigrated to the USA. We will be there in October and will probably stay in the Midwest.
In my initial research I found Danube Swabian associations/organizations, but for our project we specifically need people who are from the Romanian Banat. Now I came across this very interesting mailing list. My question now is: are there people here who live in the Midwest (especially St. Louis, Cincinnati and Chicago) and would be willing to be interviewed by us in October? Or maybe you know people you can refer us to? We are grateful for any help!
The interviews are mainly about origin and identity or about the loss of language/dialect. So no hard questions, just a casual conversation. We will record these interviews, but only use them for our research purposes. We are particularly interested in people who still speak a little German or the German/Swabian dialect, but this is not absolutely necessary. The only condition is that you or your ancestors emigrated from the now Romanian part of the Banat, i.e. places near Temeswar/Timisoara, Reschitz/Resita or Arad. If this applies to you, please feel free to contact me!
 
Many thanks and best regards
Manuel

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