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My Banat family, Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(e)f

Karoly Hajdu
 

Hi Everybody,

 

Does anyone have access to the Grosskomlosch and Tribswetter registers/Family Books?

Can anyone check if Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(ef) are mentioned in these family books?

I'm looking for the ancestors of both of them.

 

Elisabetha Reininger was born sometime between 1820 and 1835 and was married to Josef Straub (Marienfeld).

 

Anna Han(e)f’s husband was Peter Hassler and, according to the Marienfeld Family book, she was born in Gottlob around 1816.

On ancestry.com i flipped through the Roman Catholic registry of Gottlob but I couldn’t find her birth record there.

 

Thank you for your help, in advance.

Regards,

 

Károly

 

 

Joseph Matye
 

Károly,

I checked the Triebswetter family book (volumes 2 and 4) for both REININGER and HAN(EF) but did not find any matches. Same for HAN(EF) in the Gottlob family book. I checked for what I thought could be alternative spellings, but also came up with nothing. Maybe someone else will find something I missed.

Good luck,

Joe Matye

On Jun 24, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Karoly Hajdu <karoly.hajdu@...> wrote:

Hi Everybody,
 
Does anyone have access to the Grosskomlosch and Tribswetter registers/Family Books?
Can anyone check if Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(ef) are mentioned in these family books?
I'm looking for the ancestors of both of them.
 
Elisabetha Reininger was born sometime between 1820 and 1835 and was married to Josef Straub (Marienfeld).
 
Anna Han(e)f’s husband was Peter Hassler and, according to the Marienfeld Family book, she was born in Gottlob around 1816.
On ancestry.com i flipped through the Roman Catholic registry of Gottlob but I couldn’t find her birth record there.
 
Thank you for your help, in advance.
Regards,
 
Károly
 
 

Karoly Hajdu
 

Thank you Joe.

Károly

 

From: everybody@banat.groups.io <everybody@banat.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Matye via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 24 June, 2020 20:02
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Subject: Re: [banat] My Banat family, Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(e)f

 

Károly,

 

I checked the Triebswetter family book (volumes 2 and 4) for both REININGER and HAN(EF) but did not find any matches. Same for HAN(EF) in the Gottlob family book. I checked for what I thought could be alternative spellings, but also came up with nothing. Maybe someone else will find something I missed.

 

Good luck,

 

Joe Matye



On Jun 24, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Karoly Hajdu <karoly.hajdu@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Does anyone have access to the Grosskomlosch and Tribswetter registers/Family Books?

Can anyone check if Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(ef) are mentioned in these family books?

I'm looking for the ancestors of both of them.

 

Elisabetha Reininger was born sometime between 1820 and 1835 and was married to Josef Straub (Marienfeld).

 

Anna Han(e)f’s husband was Peter Hassler and, according to the Marienfeld Family book, she was born in Gottlob around 1816.

On ancestry.com i flipped through the Roman Catholic registry of Gottlob but I couldn’t find her birth record there.

 

Thank you for your help, in advance.

Regards,

 

Károly

 

 

 

Karoly Hajdu
 

Hi Everybody,

I  have the same question to Albrechtsflur.
Could anybody help me to access the Albrechtsflur Familie Book to check my Reininger and Han(e)f ancestors?

Thanks,
Károly

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From: everybody@banat.groups.io <everybody@banat.groups.io> on behalf of Karoly Hajdu via groups.io <karoly.hajdu@...>
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To: everybody@banat.groups.io <everybody@banat.groups.io>
Subject: [banat] My Banat family, Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(e)f
 

Hi Everybody,

 

Does anyone have access to the Grosskomlosch and Tribswetter registers/Family Books?

Can anyone check if Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(ef) are mentioned in these family books?

I'm looking for the ancestors of both of them.

 

Elisabetha Reininger was born sometime between 1820 and 1835 and was married to Josef Straub (Marienfeld).

 

Anna Han(e)f’s husband was Peter Hassler and, according to the Marienfeld Family book, she was born in Gottlob around 1816.

On ancestry.com i flipped through the Roman Catholic registry of Gottlob but I couldn’t find her birth record there.

 

Thank you for your help, in advance.

Regards,

 

Károly

 

 

Karen Dalton Preston
 

Hi Károly,

I am working to complete a new family book for Albrechtsflor.  I have 2 REININGER families; the name HANEF/HANF only appears as a wife: 

I hope this is helpful.
—Karen


R 039    REININGER Sebastian, son of Jakob REININGER (REIMINGER) and Katharina FRITZ (Kern R-114.4)
*12.02.1773 Kernei/Batschka (Qu: FB Kernei)
oo 28.01.1794 Kernei  -  witnesses: Adam Beck, Peter Tettjung
MAJENS (MAJENCZ, MAIENEK) Anna Maria (Marianna, Elisabeth)
*ca. 1776 Kernei                                                             +03.12.1808 Albrechtsflor, 32 yrs.
1.  Josef                       *28.07.1795 Kernei                      +06.08.1795 Kernei
2.  Elisabeth                  *14.09.1796 Kernei
3.  Nikolaus                  ~31.07.1798 Alb                          +10.03.1801 Alb, 2 yrs.
4.  Georg                      ~22.01.1801 Alb                          oo Elisabeth HEINRICH (R-040)
5.  Nikolaus                  ~25.01.1803 Alb                          +25.04.1806 Alb, 4 yrs.
6.  Katharina                 ~02.03.1805 Alb
7.  Stillborn male           *05.08.1806 Alb                          +05.08.1806 Alb, stillborn
8.  Klara                       ~19.07.1807 Alb
Godparents:  3. Nikolaus Ortner, Katharina Sasser, unmarried; 4. Georg Pfeiffer, Margaretha Schersi; 5. Nikolaus Ortner, Margaretha Sasser; 6. Katharina Pfeiffer, Christian Prittig; 7. no baptism performed - stillborn birth; 8. Dominik Hubik, Klara Köhler
Anmerkung:  Vater von Sebastian:  Jakob Reininger (WK = Reminger), *um 1725-1729, ab 1765 in Kernei/Batschka, dort +18.05.1799, oo 25.11.1762 in Apatin/Batschka, Katharina Fritz, *um 1744, +04.06.1788, er oo II 29.07.1788 Kernei, übKdr geb. #1 in Apatin, #2-7 in Kernei: (Josef *09.06.1764, Johann *07.12.1770, Sebastian *12.02.1773, Jakob *09.02.1775, Ursula *16.04.1777, Bernhard *06.06.1778, Adam *15.07.1781); Wien: Nov. 1765, Zimmermann, a d Reich, n Kernyaja = Kernei; WK 15/14.
~
Note:  Father of Sebastian:  Jakob Reininger (WK = Reminger), *ca. 1725-1729, by 1765 in Kernei/Batschka, died there in 18.05.1799, oo 25.11.1762 in Apatin/Batschka, Katharina Fritz, *um 1744, +04.06.1788, his 2oo 29.07.1788 Kernei, surviving children, #1 born in Apatin, #2-7 born in Kernei: (Josef *09.06.1764, Johann *07.12.1770, Sebastian *12.02.1773, Jakob *09.02.1775, Ursula *16.04.1777, Bernhard *06.06.1779, Adam *16.07.1781); Wien: Nov. 1765, carpenter, from the Reich, to Kernyaja = Kernei; WK 15/14.
Qu:  Stefan Stader - Sammelwerk donauschwäbischer Kolonisten, volume VI, pg. 252, #43000
Qu:  Johann Schmidt - Familienbuch Kernei in der Batschka, volume II, pg. 291, #R-116; pg. 290-291, #R-114.4
 
R 040    REININGER (REINICH) Georg (Johann), probable son of Sebastian REININGER and Anna Maria MAJENS (R-039.4) (Kern R-116.x)
~22.01.1801 Albrechtsflor, living in Albrechtsflor
oo 02.11.1823 Albrechtsflor (MI-FI)  -  witnesses: Josef Koller, Johann Heinrich
HEINRICH Elisabeth, probable dau of Georg HEINRICH and Elisabeth EBERHARDT (H-068.4) (Tschnd 1588.4)
*10.07.1804 Tschanad, living in Albrechtsflor
1.  Michael                   ~10.12.1823 Alb                          +10.12.1823 Alb, “infant”
2.  Johann                    ~22.11.1824 Alb                          +02.12.1824 Alb, 8 days.
3.  Johann                    ~06.07.1826 Alb
Godparents:  1. Josef Veber, Anna Grebldinger; 2. Johann Heinrich, Margaretha Kaufman; 3. Johann Szerschy, Margaretha Heinrich
Qu:  Johann Schmidt - Familienbuch Kernei in der Batschka, volume II, pg. 291, #R-116.x
 
F 334    FRANZ (FRANTZ) Georg, son of Georg FRANTZ and Susanna BERG (Mrfld 02313.3)
~13.03.1808 Marienfeld
1oo 16.07.1832 Marienfeld (MI24-FI27)  -  witnesses: Michael Franz, Anton Straub
PASSMANN (PASZMANN) Marianna (Anna Maria), dau of Andreas PASSMANN and Margaretha ORDNER (Mrfld 08009.6)
~11.12.1805 Marienfeld
1.  Josef                       ~06.04.1837 Alb (* in Nero)
2oo 27.10.1846 Marienfeld (Mv38-Fv28)  -  witnesses: Christoph Schütz, Johann Peter
HANEF (HANF) Anna, widow of Peter HASSLER (HASLER) (Mrfld 03249)
*ca. 1816 Gottlob
Godparents:  1. Josef Wailer, Elisabeth Paszmann
Note:  1 additional child born in Nero in 1833 with 1oo and 2 children born in Marienfeld between 1849-1851 with 2oo; see Mrfld #02319
Qu:  Willi Krisch - Ortsfamilienbuch Marienfeld, pg. 312, #02319; pg. 311, #02313.3; pg. 1003, #08009.6; pg. 425-426, #03249

On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Karoly Hajdu <karoly.hajdu@...> wrote:

Hi Everybody,

I  have the same question to Albrechtsflur.
Could anybody help me to access the Albrechtsflur Familie Book to check my Reininger and Han(e)f ancestors?

Thanks,
Károly

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To: everybody@banat.groups.io <everybody@banat.groups.io>
Subject: [banat] My Banat family, Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(e)f
 
Hi Everybody,

 

Does anyone have access to the Grosskomlosch and Tribswetter registers/Family Books?
Can anyone check if Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(ef) are mentioned in these family books?
I'm looking for the ancestors of both of them.

 

Elisabetha Reininger was born sometime between 1820 and 1835 and was married to Josef Straub (Marienfeld).

 

Anna Han(e)f’s husband was Peter Hassler and, according to the Marienfeld Family book, she was born in Gottlob around 1816.
On ancestry.com i flipped through the Roman Catholic registry of Gottlob but I couldn’t find her birth record there.
 
Thank you for your help, in advance.
Regards,

 

Károly

 

 


Karoly Hajdu
 

Hi Karen,

 

Thank you very much.

It is very helpful.

The Reiningers moved a lot of.

I didn’t know, that my great-great-grandmother (Anna Hanf) had a second husband. 😊

 

Best Regards,

Károly

 

From: everybody@banat.groups.io <everybody@banat.groups.io> On Behalf Of Karen Dalton Preston via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 4:13 PM
To: Banat.io List <everybody@banat.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [banat] My Banat family, Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(e)f

 

Hi Károly,

 

I am working to complete a new family book for Albrechtsflor.  I have 2 REININGER families; the name HANEF/HANF only appears as a wife: 

 

I hope this is helpful.

—Karen

 

 

R 039    REININGER Sebastian, son of Jakob REININGER (REIMINGER) and Katharina FRITZ (Kern R-114.4)

*12.02.1773 Kernei/Batschka (Qu: FB Kernei)

oo 28.01.1794 Kernei  -  witnesses: Adam Beck, Peter Tettjung

MAJENS (MAJENCZ, MAIENEK) Anna Maria (Marianna, Elisabeth)

*ca. 1776 Kernei                                                             +03.12.1808 Albrechtsflor, 32 yrs.

1.  Josef                       *28.07.1795 Kernei                      +06.08.1795 Kernei

2.  Elisabeth                  *14.09.1796 Kernei

3.  Nikolaus                  ~31.07.1798 Alb                          +10.03.1801 Alb, 2 yrs.

4.  Georg                      ~22.01.1801 Alb                          oo Elisabeth HEINRICH (R-040)

5.  Nikolaus                  ~25.01.1803 Alb                          +25.04.1806 Alb, 4 yrs.

6.  Katharina                 ~02.03.1805 Alb

7.  Stillborn male           *05.08.1806 Alb                          +05.08.1806 Alb, stillborn

8.  Klara                       ~19.07.1807 Alb

Godparents:  3. Nikolaus Ortner, Katharina Sasser, unmarried; 4. Georg Pfeiffer, Margaretha Schersi; 5. Nikolaus Ortner, Margaretha Sasser; 6. Katharina Pfeiffer, Christian Prittig; 7. no baptism performed - stillborn birth; 8. Dominik Hubik, Klara Köhler

Anmerkung:  Vater von Sebastian:  Jakob Reininger (WK = Reminger), *um 1725-1729, ab 1765 in Kernei/Batschka, dort +18.05.1799, oo 25.11.1762 in Apatin/Batschka, Katharina Fritz, *um 1744, +04.06.1788, er oo II 29.07.1788 Kernei, übKdr geb. #1 in Apatin, #2-7 in Kernei: (Josef *09.06.1764, Johann *07.12.1770, Sebastian *12.02.1773, Jakob *09.02.1775, Ursula *16.04.1777, Bernhard *06.06.1778, Adam *15.07.1781); Wien: Nov. 1765, Zimmermann, a d Reich, n Kernyaja = Kernei; WK 15/14.

~

Note:  Father of Sebastian:  Jakob Reininger (WK = Reminger), *ca. 1725-1729, by 1765 in Kernei/Batschka, died there in 18.05.1799, oo 25.11.1762 in Apatin/Batschka, Katharina Fritz, *um 1744, +04.06.1788, his 2oo 29.07.1788 Kernei, surviving children, #1 born in Apatin, #2-7 born in Kernei: (Josef *09.06.1764, Johann *07.12.1770, Sebastian *12.02.1773, Jakob *09.02.1775, Ursula *16.04.1777, Bernhard *06.06.1779, Adam *16.07.1781); Wien: Nov. 1765, carpenter, from the Reich, to Kernyaja = Kernei; WK 15/14.

Qu:  Stefan Stader - Sammelwerk donauschwäbischer Kolonisten, volume VI, pg. 252, #43000

Qu:  Johann Schmidt - Familienbuch Kernei in der Batschka, volume II, pg. 291, #R-116; pg. 290-291, #R-114.4

 

R 040    REININGER (REINICH) Georg (Johann), probable son of Sebastian REININGER and Anna Maria MAJENS (R-039.4) (Kern R-116.x)

~22.01.1801 Albrechtsflor, living in Albrechtsflor

oo 02.11.1823 Albrechtsflor (MI-FI)  -  witnesses: Josef Koller, Johann Heinrich

HEINRICH Elisabeth, probable dau of Georg HEINRICH and Elisabeth EBERHARDT (H-068.4) (Tschnd 1588.4)

*10.07.1804 Tschanad, living in Albrechtsflor

1.  Michael                   ~10.12.1823 Alb                          +10.12.1823 Alb, “infant”

2.  Johann                    ~22.11.1824 Alb                          +02.12.1824 Alb, 8 days.

3.  Johann                    ~06.07.1826 Alb

Godparents:  1. Josef Veber, Anna Grebldinger; 2. Johann Heinrich, Margaretha Kaufman; 3. Johann Szerschy, Margaretha Heinrich

Qu:  Johann Schmidt - Familienbuch Kernei in der Batschka, volume II, pg. 291, #R-116.x

 

F 334    FRANZ (FRANTZ) Georg, son of Georg FRANTZ and Susanna BERG (Mrfld 02313.3)

~13.03.1808 Marienfeld

1oo 16.07.1832 Marienfeld (MI24-FI27)  -  witnesses: Michael Franz, Anton Straub

PASSMANN (PASZMANN) Marianna (Anna Maria), dau of Andreas PASSMANN and Margaretha ORDNER (Mrfld 08009.6)

~11.12.1805 Marienfeld

1.  Josef                       ~06.04.1837 Alb (* in Nero)

2oo 27.10.1846 Marienfeld (Mv38-Fv28)  -  witnesses: Christoph Schütz, Johann Peter

HANEF (HANF) Anna, widow of Peter HASSLER (HASLER) (Mrfld 03249)

*ca. 1816 Gottlob

Godparents:  1. Josef Wailer, Elisabeth Paszmann

Note:  1 additional child born in Nero in 1833 with 1oo and 2 children born in Marienfeld between 1849-1851 with 2oo; see Mrfld #02319

Qu:  Willi Krisch - Ortsfamilienbuch Marienfeld, pg. 312, #02319; pg. 311, #02313.3; pg. 1003, #08009.6; pg. 425-426, #03249



On Jun 24, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Karoly Hajdu <karoly.hajdu@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everybody,

I  have the same question to Albrechtsflur.

Could anybody help me to access the Albrechtsflur Familie Book to check my Reininger and Han(e)f ancestors?

Thanks,

Károly

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From: everybody@banat.groups.io <everybody@banat.groups.io> on behalf of Karoly Hajdu via groups.io<karoly.hajdu@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 3:57:34 PM
To: everybody@banat.groups.io <everybody@banat.groups.io>
Subject: [banat] My Banat family, Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(e)f

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Does anyone have access to the Grosskomlosch and Tribswetter registers/Family Books?

Can anyone check if Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(ef) are mentioned in these family books?

I'm looking for the ancestors of both of them.

 

Elisabetha Reininger was born sometime between 1820 and 1835 and was married to Josef Straub (Marienfeld).

 

Anna Han(e)f’s husband was Peter Hassler and, according to the Marienfeld Family book, she was born in Gottlob around 1816.

On ancestry.com i flipped through the Roman Catholic registry of Gottlob but I couldn’t find her birth record there.

 

Thank you for your help, in advance.

Regards,

 

Károly

 

 

 

Karoly Hajdu
 

Hi Joe,

 

I found on MyHeritage that you have Mussler ancestors.

 

I have in my familytree also a Mussler line (from Marienfeld):

 

3078 STRAUB Anton.., – she is my great-great-great-grandmother

*Temeschburg, , Ort ist von mir angenommen

MUSSLER Anna Maria, (Td. Johann M. - Christina Salomon) 2128 – she is my great-great-great-grandmother

*Mfd, 03.05.1794, I/137

oo Mfd, II/41, 31.01.1815, (Ml-Fl),  Tz: Pet Kannengieser, Blasi Seifert

Kinder in Mfd Paten

1 . Jakob *11.12.1815  +18.12.1815  Jakob Musler, Susanna Schlier

2 . Adam *24.11.1816  +30.11.1816  Adam Schlier,Anna Hailin?

3 . Barbara *06.02.1818  +11.02.1818  Johann Hackl, Barbara Kreuter

4 . Anna *01.02.1819  +29.05.1820  Josef Kreutzer, Anna Hackl

5 . Barbara *25.03.1821  III/1  Christof Straub?, Bb Kreuter

6 . Josef *26.03.1823  III/33  Jos Krän=Grün, AM Klemens, 3084 – He is my great-great-grandfather

7 . Theresia *05.04.1825  03.07.1825  Nero) Adam Klemens, Ther Grün

8 . A Maria *14.05.1827  III/83  Nero) Jos KIremer, AM Klement

9 . Johann *17.10.1828  III/102  Nero) Joh Gabriel, Ther Grün, 3081

10 .Anton *21.11.1829  +03.10.1838  Josef Grün, Anna Gabriel

11 . Ägidius *10.02.1834  III/187  Johann Kremer, Bb Schlier

12 .Andreas *01.04.1836  III/222  Andreas Trahos, Anna Kremer

13 .Anton *20.08.1838  +20.08.1838  keine Paten

Bem: Doppelhochzeit mit der Schwester MA Straub, siehe Jakob Mussler

 

Do you have any more information about the Mussler/Straub ancestor?

When and from where they were settled in Banat?

 

With best regards,

Károly Hajdu

 

 

From: everybody@banat.groups.io <everybody@banat.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Matye via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:02 PM
To: everybody@banat.groups.io
Subject: Re: [banat] My Banat family, Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(e)f

 

Károly,

 

I checked the Triebswetter family book (volumes 2 and 4) for both REININGER and HAN(EF) but did not find any matches. Same for HAN(EF) in the Gottlob family book. I checked for what I thought could be alternative spellings, but also came up with nothing. Maybe someone else will find something I missed.

 

Good luck,

 

Joe Matye



On Jun 24, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Karoly Hajdu <karoly.hajdu@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Does anyone have access to the Grosskomlosch and Tribswetter registers/Family Books?

Can anyone check if Elisabetha Reininger and Anna Han(ef) are mentioned in these family books?

I'm looking for the ancestors of both of them.

 

Elisabetha Reininger was born sometime between 1820 and 1835 and was married to Josef Straub (Marienfeld).

 

Anna Han(e)f’s husband was Peter Hassler and, according to the Marienfeld Family book, she was born in Gottlob around 1816.

On ancestry.com i flipped through the Roman Catholic registry of Gottlob but I couldn’t find her birth record there.

 

Thank you for your help, in advance.

Regards,

 

Károly